Season 01, Episode 11

Podcast Episode Title

The Last of Us is a Business Story: Trauma Bonding to Business Bonding with Eunice Brownlee

Publish Date

Wednesday, October 11, 2023

Summary description

In this week’s episode, join host Mary Williams and special guest Eunice Brownlee as they delve deep into the topics of trauma bonding, resilience, and the often-hidden coercive control dynamics present in both personal and business relationships. They explore the impact of non-disparagement clauses on transparency and accountability, shedding light on an important issue in the entrepreneurial landscape.

This episode isn’t just about drawing comparisons; it’s about finding inspiration and empowerment in the face of adversity. Learn how resilience, collaboration, and the ability to adapt are key ingredients in both surviving a fictional post-apocalyptic world and thriving in the real world with an ever-changing business landscape.

Join this thought-provoking conversation to gain insights that will inspire you to overcome challenges, forge genuine connections, and take charge of your own entrepreneurial journey. Whether you’re a business owner or simply curious about the lessons we can glean from fiction, this episode will help you feel seen, heard, and validated in your experiences.

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Quote from the episode

I feel like we’ve all had that moment in our business and then something turns. And then the next thing you know, you’re exactly where you were trying to be. You might not have gotten there on the map that you thought you were going to go. You might not have gotten there in the vehicle you thought you were going to go. But you realize once you’re there, “Oh yeah, that was quite the ride. But I’m here.”

~ Eunice Brownlee, Founder & CEO of

Discussed in this episode

  • Parallels between ‘The Last of Us’ and real-life business experiences.
  • The importance of recognizing trauma bonding in business relationships.
  • The impact of non-disparagement clauses on transparency and accountability.
  • Exploring the concept of resilience in entrepreneurship.
  • The power of collaboration and evolving business directions.
  • Lessons on survival, adaptation, and change from the post-apocalyptic narrative.
  • How resilience plays a crucial role in personal and business growth.
  • Overcoming hardships and finding strength in the face of adversity.
  • Recognizing the coercive control dynamics in business and society.
  • The value of open conversations and sharing experiences in the entrepreneurial community.

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Guest information

Eunice Brownlee

Eunice helps women/non-binary folks who have a soul calling to share a message, but need help bringing it to the surface or creating words to help it land. She offers a range of speaking services, from speaking practice to building a thought leadership library to helping craft a talk. You can connect with Eunice through her website, Instagram, LinkedIn, Substack, Threads.

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